Full disclosure - I am slightly drunk.

I just wanted to say based on trends I am seeing in my very non-scientific observations on social media - support for Israel and Zionism has completely collapsed. Like you might as well say ‘fuck the troops’ collapsed.

I hate Isreal and I hate Zionism, but I am concerned based on my own personal experiences about how easily this is turned into straight up ‘hitler was right’ rhetoric.

And I think this is what Zionists wanted. What is the best way forward with anti-zionst movement?

  • hello_hello [undecided, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    3 months ago

    on my own personal experiences about how easily this is turned into straight up ‘hitler was right’ rhetoric.

    Anybody saying “hitler was right” is just a zionist, you’re worrying about a hasbara op.

    • birdcat@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      3 months ago

      The last time I’ve heard something similar (… just too bad he didn’t succeeded) I was in Iran. I think it’s a mistake to assume that only “the others” can fall into such traps, no one is immune to fascist ideology.

      Also not sure if relevant now, but I think it was also a mistake to run with Epstein Fury, Epstein class etc. Cuz it can suggest that Israel (aka “the Jews”) are behind of it all, which could backfire. I’ve made a joke a few days ago that suggests that Bibi has compromising Video material of Trump that made Trump enter the war, which I would not do again now. Sounds stupid, but I was simply not aware that there are people who legit believe this. As clarification: if Bibi had tried to blackmail Trump in ANY way shape or form, it would have turned out pretty much like this. (thinking about it, that was a bad take, cannot consider all possible conclusions which the biggest idiots might land on)

      • hello_hello [undecided, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        4·
        3 months ago

        Nobody is unaffected by propaganda but you can shut those people up by linking them to Joe Biden soundbite where he says that if there wasn’t an Israel in the region then the US would invent one. If western Europe had not betrayed the soviets and actually intervened and deposed Hitler then the holocaust would have been prevented and Israel would not have its mythos as being restitution for Jewish pain.

        The difference between fascists and comrades is that comrades listen to reason.