Full disclosure - I am slightly drunk.

I just wanted to say based on trends I am seeing in my very non-scientific observations on social media - support for Israel and Zionism has completely collapsed. Like you might as well say ‘fuck the troops’ collapsed.

I hate Isreal and I hate Zionism, but I am concerned based on my own personal experiences about how easily this is turned into straight up ‘hitler was right’ rhetoric.

And I think this is what Zionists wanted. What is the best way forward with anti-zionst movement?

  • SuperZutsuki [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    31·
    2 months ago

    Never let them distance themselves from Nazism. Zionism is just Neo-Nazism. It’s what every Neo-Nazi in Idaho wants for themselves, which is why they love Israel. For them, it’s proof that you can have a stable ethnostate. The only way a person can look at Israel and think, “Hitler was right!” Is if by “right” they mean the tireless effort to construct an ethnostate based on settler-colonialism. Also, hasn’t Israel literally used the term Lebensraum in regards to invading and occupying territory?

    • birdcat@lemmy.mlEnglish
      14·
      2 months ago

      Very much agree with this. There is no such thing as Antisemitism, its just another word fascism, Nazism, neo fascism whatever idk the correct terms; hate based on something a human is born with, human-hate, nothing more.

      Still crazy how difficult it is to separate Jewishness/Jews from Israel. I’m in Vietnam and have friends who simply refuse job offers from any Israelis or just dont serve them. And I mean sure, some of them are completely crazy fascist and show it on Facebook or behave like assholes, but how to know which of them didn’t just left Israel in a “fuck this shit, not in my name” mindset?

        • birdcat@lemmy.mlEnglish
          10·
          2 months ago

          More in every single case, kinda undersold it with “sure some…” cuz so far it was only completely unhinged, demanding and super rude ppl u cannot even imagine (not that this is a huge sampling group, its small, but still, makes u think). Probably right to worry about this shit once Israel as a state and concept is gone.