i saw mine has increased 100% in the past 2 years and it grossed me out because i know this shit has consequences. but what else do i do? my work matches a small percentage, so turning down free money feels absurd, and maybe not being obtusely poor when i retire(lololol) would be nice.

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    That is my life goal, to build these oases where people opposed to the abuses of capitalism can live a life outside of it,

    yea i used to have that dream too, but property and land prices is it feasible for me? probably not. sure if i had a bunch of people to go in on it with me, but will i find those people? I even did my final college paper on utopian socialism in America. Unfortunately those projects never lasted. The longest lasting was maybe the Shakers, but they died out because their kids didnt want to live that way. Intentional communities have existed where they tried to not have money as a concept, but that’s tough to do when you’re surrounded by a society using money.

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      but property and land prices is it feasible for me? probably not.

      That depends on whether you have ambitions/desires that are directly received from bourgeois ideology, like a suburban white picket fence single-family house. There is a lot of humid land in this country where you can get an acre for $8000 or so, sometimes less if you’re willing to be a bit unconventional.

      sure if i had a bunch of people to go in on it with me, but will i find those people?

      I found them, and then I found them twice more, in a span of just 8 years. I would dare to say a large fraction of Hexbear would be good prospects. And if I hadn’t found them, I would still be looking for people IRL to team up with. Most people have this inclination; they just don’t pursue it any further than finding a spouse, at which point they then prioritize the building of their own family and individual wealth in a zero-sum game with everyone else.

      Unfortunately those projects never lasted. The longest lasting was maybe the Shakers, but they died out because their kids didnt want to live that way.

      History is never made by people who sit on the sidelines, thinking that all the possibilities have already been conclusively hashed out. “Every revolution seems impossible, until it happens.” And let’s not forget that for the majority of human history, we have existed in communities that operated without the use of anything remotely like currency as we know it today.

      Also it doesn’t necessarily have to be full-fledged intentional communities. City-level federated cohousing and gardening projects are what I’m hoping to do, with the rural communes as a fallback plan if I fail.

      Or you can dump money into a party or revolutionary org, like Fergie Chambers does. I wouldn’t knock you for doing that, sectarianism sucks and I will always favor a diversity of tactics. But one way or another, we’ll have to either risk what we’ve got by making a push for something, or give up and turn to self-serving narratives as we drift into a liberal praxis. And damn it, I’m going to try, and I’m never going to stop trying.