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You mean when Japan bombed us

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Mrs. B. G. Miller, a member of the Hollywood Protective Association, points to an anti-Japanese sign reading ‘removed Keep Moving - This is a White Man’s Neighborhood’, on her house on Tamarind Street, Hollywood, Los Angeles, May 1923. Other houses in the street have similar signs and are a response to Japanese Americans buying a property on the street in order to build a Japanese Presbyterian Church.

  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    I don’t think pointing out that it was in inter imperial conflict with provocations on both sides and that it didn’t just materialize with the Japanese bombing pearl harbor for no real reason at all is in itself a defense of literally any of that, especially when the U.S. was also doing absolutely heinous and racist crimes against humanity both at the time and after winning the war

    Like if you wanna say this is imperial japanese apologia, people could use the same logic to accuse you of u.s. apologia because even if you argue the U.S. only embargoed in responsec to Japan’s crimes in manchuria and china you’re supporting the idea that WWII was a good v evil conflict and the U.S. was good and entirely motivated by wanting to stop those crimes, which i’m pretty sure you know wasn’t the case

      • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        5 months ago

        Ok go off about how you don’t care about facts i guess cool story

        as for me to engage in any us apologia

        You are literally doing that when you pretend the u.s. was just chugging along, got attacked for no reason and then entered the war. It’s the same sort of U.S. GOOD GUY propaganda that has the entire west forgetting the USSR did all the work winning the war

        Not teaching about the embargo is literally current, present day U.S. fascist propaganda. You don’t think it helps build the nationalist myth of america being the good guys to have children taught WW2 started this way? Lol, ok.

        They don’t even teach about U.S.- Japanese interactions prior to Pearl harbor in U.S. public schools, the guy above said “people forget” but no it’s literally not even mentioned. I went to a “good” public school and took college classes all through high school and the oil embargo or conditions leading up to it weren’t mentioned once. My partner has a degree in political science and again, her education never mentioned it.

        But yeah im sure it’s a good thing for the present fascist world hegemonto teach its populace that they were the lil smol bean attacked by those evil Japanese for no reason, go off on how much you agree with that while you talk about the WeStErN LeFt

      • in the context of ww2 it was irrelevant that it was an inter-imperial conflict.

        Why would that be irrelevant to WW2 in particular? Genuinely confused by this statement.

        all i care about is that there was a historically progressive side that had to be critically supported on the one hand and fucking fascists on the other

        Baffling.

        • spectre [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          5 months ago

          I’m surprised this person didn’t crash out in the same way over discussion of Russia/Ukraine, which also has …context…