Personally I think it’s silly as hell. Qualia is obviously a biological component of experience… Not some weird thing that science will never be able to put in to words.

I’ve been listening to a lot of psychology podcasts lately and for some reason people seem obsessed with the idea despite you needing to make the same logical leaps to believe it as any sort of mysticism… Maybe I am just tripping idk

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    I wouldn’t asign a will to the universe as that seems to be sneaking in teleological thinking. There is no apparent mechanism for the earth or universe to collect diagnostic data, but I am willing to admit maybe there is a giant magical brain we have yet to discover really far away. If we find that brain I’ll change my tune.

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      How exactly are you defining “collecting diagnostic data” without sneaking in teleological thinking?

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        I am not sure what this means. Are you suggesting an agent collecting diagnostic data is teleological? Or are you suggesting that the need for an agent to collect diagnostic data is teleological?

        I can imagine plenty of things that collect data that aren’t teleological but I am probably just not understanding your question.

        A universal will is inherently teleological. An individual will that developed randomly within the universe doesn’t have to be.

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      It seems as though you’re taking a “I’ve experienced thinking this one way (neurons) and therefore it could never happen any other way”. Really, you have a dataset of 1, though. It’s hard to build a theory off of one datapoint