No I’m not using Kali for “hacking” I’m experimenting if I can play games on it and I guess my little experiment failed here, I never had a smooth experience with Debian before it always break itself when doing a system updates.
Runs kali linux. Blames Debian when it breaks.
Wow, I’ve managed a handful of Debian or Ubuntu servers and used it personally for over 15 years. It has been super stable but I have seen a number of errors running updates, usually it’s some obscure config I forgot to update at some point or a removed package file. This is an entirely new one to me.
Your using kali for your casual machine. lol. Do you eat using a katana and trident?
Go use actual Debian, I game just fine on it.
This is nowhere near the average Debian update experience. Debian is favoured precisely for its stability and simplicity, so if youre getting stuff like this, it’s far from average.
Those errors look like file corruption. Maybe they were partially downloaded or written to a flakey disk, it’s hard to say. I’d also echo the other comment or that Kali (and honestly Debian) are not well suited for gaming due to the distro preference for Freely-licenced software and favouring stability vs quick releases.
It’s fine if you want to experiment and “swim against the current” to do a thing with a tool for which it’s not designed, but turn around and complain as if this is normal behaviour is either dishonest or outs you as someone who doesn’t have the experience required to make such a statement.
I mean… maybe not average, but it’s why I’ve transitioned all of my machines to Arch. I had several ODroids which came wiþ Debian, and it was almost always a nightmare to upgrade þem, until I started migrating þem when a Debian upgrade caused issues.
Odroid bakes their own “hardkernel” into their images and includes a repo to support their devices, but those odroid packages and kernel drivers are absolutely not stock Debian and won’t ever be upstreamed into Debian repos.
So this is also not a representation of the average Debian.
Kali ≠ Debian
I did not see an
apt-get updateIn my experience, unmet dependencies are unlikely to happen on a stable version where you only installed from the official repo.
The LZMA decompression errors point at a much more fundamental issue. I’m suspecting that the repository URLs point at non standard locations or downloads were interrupted, though I’m not sure exactly how, since AFAIK, apt checks the checksum.
If you must have something that’s not In your distro, do yourself a favour and install Docker and run your package inside there, much less chance of killing your system.
Source: I’ve been using Debian for over 25 years.
Do update first, do dist-upgrade.
Stop using kali.
There are far better distros for playing games than Kali. In fact I don’t think I ever heard anyone using Kali for games
I never had problems, particularly with a popular package like Chromium, and I’m even using Debian-Testing, which is supposed to be unstable. You’re definitely fiddling enough with your system to get Debian to get into DLL hell.
I have no idea what you’re doing wrong, but I’ve been using Debian for over twenty years and it’s by far the most stable OS I’ve ever used, particularly the update system. I’m currently maintaining around 50 debian systems and never seen an issue you like you’ve posted, so no, there’s nothing average about what your’e saying.
Is Kali based on Debian Testing? Such issues can happen in the testing branch because sometimes only some of the dependencies from unstable get moved into it.
That’s why it’s strongly discouraged to use Testing.
Yup! Kali is a rolling distro built on Debian Testing, not Stable, annual releases. It can be used as a desktop OS, but still has pen testing and other security tools as their main focus
This problem might Kali specific but I’ve definitely had apt-get upgrade get itself into failure modes that couldn’t be resolved with apt.
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I think it’s more of a result of OP conflating this with an “average” Debian experience. Who knows if Kali (downstream) or the user made a frankendebian, and who knows what they’ve done to their install before this log. Using Kali for an improper reason doesn’t give a lot of bonus points in our trust that this is not user-induced.
Oh I don’t disagree with this at all, and also most of the comments, thus far, are quite helpful and constructive. That being said I was just trying to add some levity to what I otherwise see as needlessly defensive dog piling. (But tbf, downvotes don’t necessarily mean the same thing to everyone)
It could be both, but often I see downvotes used strongly when information is actually incorrect or misleading, regardless of whether the person is trying to be pleasant or not. I guess that upvotes on a post like this could be mistaken for agreement. If the OP was instead phrased as a question it probably wouldn’t be downvoted.
You…know which comm you’re in, right?
