ah yes murdering thousands of people was necessary because some of them might have been fascists, not like you could have just, removed them from office? Given that it was a dictatorship in which what Stalin says goes.
and the PRC may be socialist internally but it is also practically the backbone of capitalism, giving thousands of companies cheap child labor to exploit for profit. I do agree that places like Vietnam should be given more attention for their success
The vast majority of those found guilty were just removed from office. Executions were reserved for those found guilty of treason, sexual assault, or other serious crimes. It wasn’t just killing everyone suspicious. Furthermore, it wasn’t a dictatorship, Stalin was contested numerous times throughout his service. The soviet model of democracy had many moving parts, and required a large group of people making decisons collectively, from the bottom to the top.
As for the PRC, child labor is illegal, and is actually more common among western countries. Chinese workers have recieved large pay increases year over year for decades. Purchasing Power in 2022 was 25 times higher than 1978. There was also a successful extreme poverty elimination campaign, I recommend reading The Metamorphosis of Yuangudui to see an example of the major transformations taking place due to dedicated and targeted poverty eradication.
As for Vietnam, they are largely playing by the same playbook China did. Once it becomes clear to the west that they are in fact still dedicated to socialism and not simply letting the west use them for cheap labor, they will likely recieve similar fearmongering China does today, just like the USSR recieved during its existence. Public perception is largely shaped by how beneficial the west sees other countries.
I’m not trying to be condescending here, I used to hold similar views to yourself, before I started taking theory and history seriously and joined an org. I really encourage you to seek more working class perspectives. The Black Panther Party is an excellent example of a group that is popular with the people, so hearing for the first time about how friendly they were with the DPRK can be shocking if you haven’t already been digging into socialist perspectives on the 20th century and AES states.
I don’t know if you know this, but something being illegal doesn’t really stop it from happening, you said yourself that is more common in western countries, despite it being illegal in many western countries
I’m sure you can find an isolated case or two, but your point was that it’s something common enough to be the backbone of western investment in China, and not the fact that China leveraged it’s relatively cheaper labor power initially in order to gain access to production technology. These days wages are much higher, but production is so effective per labor hour that it’s surpassed everywhere else. Child labor is strictly forbidden by law in China.
ah yes murdering thousands of people was necessary because some of them might have been fascists, not like you could have just, removed them from office? Given that it was a dictatorship in which what Stalin says goes. and the PRC may be socialist internally but it is also practically the backbone of capitalism, giving thousands of companies cheap child labor to exploit for profit. I do agree that places like Vietnam should be given more attention for their success
The vast majority of those found guilty were just removed from office. Executions were reserved for those found guilty of treason, sexual assault, or other serious crimes. It wasn’t just killing everyone suspicious. Furthermore, it wasn’t a dictatorship, Stalin was contested numerous times throughout his service. The soviet model of democracy had many moving parts, and required a large group of people making decisons collectively, from the bottom to the top.
As for the PRC, child labor is illegal, and is actually more common among western countries. Chinese workers have recieved large pay increases year over year for decades. Purchasing Power in 2022 was 25 times higher than 1978. There was also a successful extreme poverty elimination campaign, I recommend reading The Metamorphosis of Yuangudui to see an example of the major transformations taking place due to dedicated and targeted poverty eradication.
As for Vietnam, they are largely playing by the same playbook China did. Once it becomes clear to the west that they are in fact still dedicated to socialism and not simply letting the west use them for cheap labor, they will likely recieve similar fearmongering China does today, just like the USSR recieved during its existence. Public perception is largely shaped by how beneficial the west sees other countries.
I’m not trying to be condescending here, I used to hold similar views to yourself, before I started taking theory and history seriously and joined an org. I really encourage you to seek more working class perspectives. The Black Panther Party is an excellent example of a group that is popular with the people, so hearing for the first time about how friendly they were with the DPRK can be shocking if you haven’t already been digging into socialist perspectives on the 20th century and AES states.
I don’t know if you know this, but something being illegal doesn’t really stop it from happening, you said yourself that is more common in western countries, despite it being illegal in many western countries
I’m sure you can find an isolated case or two, but your point was that it’s something common enough to be the backbone of western investment in China, and not the fact that China leveraged it’s relatively cheaper labor power initially in order to gain access to production technology. These days wages are much higher, but production is so effective per labor hour that it’s surpassed everywhere else. Child labor is strictly forbidden by law in China.