Ran the oven through its 3 hour self-cleaning cycle today. The heat it gave off kept the house warm and the furnace from kicking on for like 6 hours. My gas bill appreciates that.

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    That depends entirely on how much each costs. If you have a solar panel and battery, the whole thing might not hit your wallet at all.

    Note that I didn’t say it was free, since for example installing such infrastructure is not without cost.

    What’s more interesting is that gas and electricity are charged in such a way that you cannot actually properly compare them, ostensibly because gas burns differently depending on what comes out of the ground - interesting, since that same gas is used to generate electricity at the power station.

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      What’s more interesting is that gas and electricity are charged in such a way that you cannot actually properly compare them

      You can, though, with a little bit of engineering math. The goal is to get to an amount of end user energy per $, counting your appliance efficiency. (I’m about to mix ISO and Imperial units here, please nobody murder me)

      Nat.gas is a variable mixture for sure, but it is required to fall within a “reasonable range” of producible heat energy per cubic foot of gas at atmospheric pressure and 60F. In the US this typically ranges from 1,000 to 1,100 BTU per cubic foot, and the accepted industry average is 1,038 BTU/cu.f (1095.15 kJ /cu.f)

      US bulk gas deliveries are priced in $ per thousand cubic feet, using the standard cubic foot described above. In December 2023 this was $12.94/kcu.f, but has varied between $8 and $24/kcu.f in the last few years. And your furnace is typically between 80 and 90% efficient at getting the heat out of the gas and into your home; the rest is lost up the flue. Plugging these values into a unit conversion equation:

      If we do the same for electricity using resistance heating its much easier, as resistance heaters are 100% efficient; all wattage put in comes right out as heat. (Heat pumps actually improve efficiency to above 100% but i’m not worrying about those, as those are not practical for an oven.)
      The average cost of a kWh of electricity was 12.38 cents in the US for 2023.. counting for delivery charges this was likely closer to 16c/kwh based off my own bill, so I’ll use that.
      Where a kWh is 1000 watts for 1 hour, a watt is 1 joule per second, and there are 3600 seconds in an hour, you get:

      Even counting for furnace efficiency, it’s still more than 3x the cost to get the same heat from electricity than from gas. YMMV with different input costs of course.