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You’re now just being argumentative and facetious. You’re taking what I’m saying out of context, outright ignoring certain parts and forcing it to fit your own narrative. You’re disingenuous.
Nothing can come from this and I don’t have the energy for it. Goodbye.
True. But ‘Militant Vegetarian’ isn’t exactly a term known by most people. Moreover, this is a meme on a meme community. No one is taking the title seriously.
I’d say forgive me for using it but frankly I don’t care.
(but then Jews don’t answer for the acts of Israel?)
Followers of a specific faith are not the same as citizens of a country.
And honestly I’m not bothering to read the risk of this garbage either. If Russia wants to stop being accused of crimes then Russia should stop committing the crimes.
Okay, no one’s forcing you.
… This entire comment chain was literally because someone said “The DM should know all their players stats”. I’m making the argument that is nonsensical, as well as your addition. That is all. I never said that anyone was forcing me either. Kind of a weird thing to say, to be honest.
I’m saying that if the DC is beyond the ability of a particular character, tell them that they have no chance of success, even on a crit, so rolling is pointless.
And remove a chance for roleplay or funnyness from my players? Yeah, no thanks. I’ve seen plenty of hilarious moments, and been part of some myself, from people failing to do a thing because they just simply couldn’t. Besides, a character might still want to do it anyway regardless of whether or not they succeed. Then there are the people like myself who abhor that because it breaks immersion for me to have a DM say “You can’t do this, don’t even try”. I’m not missing the point. I just hate the idea of a DM blatantly telling me “You are not good enough to do this thing” when the entire concept is fantasy and being able to try that I dismissed it as an option. I should have said it leaves you with three options, the third being blatantly telling a player that they will be incapable of succeeding.
I stand by everything I said.
Go read words 8 through 10 again.
I think by “stats” they’re referring to base stats, attributes and saves and stuff.
I’m still not doing that. I trust my players to tell me what their modifiers are. They trust me to do the other things.
it’s about not having a player roll when success isn’t an option.
Which then leaves you with two options. First one is to make it so the highest DC is tied to the lowest modifier. Second one is to tailor every DC for every player. This completely defeats the purpose of skills and abilities. No one is good at everything. Some people will fail at some things that others will succeed at. If you want to have it so everyone can 100% succeed if they get the right roll every single time then you’re not using dice rolls well as a narrative mechanic. Or as a way to help bolster some PCs over others to help them shine in moments when others normally don’t get them. That line from Brennan always bugged me because it sounds like a failure of imagination when I know for a fact he has anything but.
Come have a suck
Now fuck off and lemme just post funny thing without making an insane leap about my own personal beliefs.
The DM should know all of the players’ stats
I’m sorry, but unless you’re paying me then no. I’m not going to know all of your stats or your prepared spells or every single item you have. I’m not gonna memorize every feat unless they come up. I’ve got a life. Players expect a staggering amount from us DMs while giving incredibly little in return.
I’ve got to build the world, set the stage, play the people, get the items, set the economy, decide the resources, make the maps, get the tokens, run the combat, get everyone’s rolls, do the voices, check in with players, create the narrative, align with player goals, turn on ambience and so much more and you also want us to memorize every modifier for every player so we can mentally check if they can even succeed on the roll before we ask it? Just… All the time as a basic requirement? Are you high?
Also I love Brennan but what he’s saying also isn’t true for every table. I would fucking HATE playing at a table where failure isn’t an option. Sometimes you just aren’t good enough at a thing to do it. I’m sorry but that’s how it is.
Via an extremely slow lactation process
It is a meme
Depends on the theory.
Nothing of value will have been lost.
Oh noooooooooo. Me being frustrated at me hitting -25 downvotes and adding an edit in calling it out has upset you. I am sooooo sorry.
Exactly. It’s a wide scale variety show that exists in a world where you can easily switch back and forth yourself. The medium as a whole is dying. If it was live at least you’d have instant feedback to what’s going on and an incentive to continue to watch, not hearing what is now effectively old news.
I wonder how many people are shifting to watching that content in clips instead of the whole show.
I was one of them. Pretty sure I’m not alone considering the sliding TV ratings and the large YouTube ratings. I had no interest in sitting around watching 5 minutes of ads in between clips when, even without adblocker because I wanted to support the show, I only had to sit through like 30-45 seconds of them. I stopped watching Colbert about a year ago but that was mostly out of mental fatigue of constant American news so I stopped watching Seth Meyers and stuff too.
If that were significant, it would suggest a different production approach, since there’s not much point in producing it in a continuous bit. Also the best person for a monologue may not be the best person to conduct an interview.
There is the problem that one of those links I posted brings up as well. Late Night shows are basically recap shows but they’re really bad at doing so. They often film at around 4-5pm EST, at least Colbert does, so anything after that fact just won’t end up on the show until the next night. But we all have a phone in our pocket now that tells us the information instantly with social media that has everyone talking about it. Late Night hosts are no longer “talking about what the Nation is talking about”, like they often like to say. They talk about what happened yesterday. Honestly? If Late Night shows all went live every night instead of being pre-recorded? I think they’d do awesome. Colbert’s live shows got more numbers than any of his other ones. People were there for the IMMEDIATE feedback and they got it.
So Colbert lost almost 1/4 of viewership over 5 years, but how does that compare to Kimmel or Fallon viewership?
Good point. I will grab that information. However, I will say that if Colbert loses a million viewers and neither one of the other ones manage to pick up those viewers? They’re clearly not going back into late night.
This isn’t the whole year but seasonal averages to a point for 2017-18. Variety says that the stats were
TheWrap says that for the 2018-2019 season, the stats looked as follows.
Deadline says the stats for 2019-2020 were as follows.
Deadline says for 2020-2021 the stats were as follows:
Couldn’t easily find anything for anything after that. The current 2.4 million viewer number is from all the articles talking about Colbert being cancelled. But even just from those years you can see the obvious trend. People were leaving late night.
Oh I also found:
This HollywoodReporter article on how Late Night is downsizing.
Forbes article pointing out that Late Night shows are just recap shows
Even the New York Post saying it’s nearly over for Late Night
EVEN JIMMY KIMMEL SAID LATE NIGHT HAS NO FUTURE. Just went on a podcast and said he has no hope for the future of the format or for his own career.
Overall, I don’t believe anyone would cancel a show that still draws over 1mill viewers for “financial reasons”. Redo the budget, sure, but not cut the entire program.
But they didn’t cut off the series partway through a contract. They just decided not to renew Colberts or bother spending the money rebranding or bringing on someone else.
Colbert alone costs them $15 million per year and his contract was up for a renewal. They were either going to have to pay him the same or more. Maybe they could get away with less but most agents are not going to allow that. Either way a fight would have been had to pay him less. Then you’ve got the extremely prime location of the Ed Sullivan theater which could be used for a whole host of things. Then there’s paying the guests, the acts and the various departments that keep the show running. You could make running a late show pretty cheap but they just… didn’t. The Late Show with Colbert is a pricey thing to keep running.
I also want to say here that I’m not trying to defend CBS in cutting the show off. Frankly I couldn’t care one way or another. I used to watch him a lot and loved him but now I’m just sorta meh and don’t care. The thing that weirded me out was that this stuff has been being talked about for years with declining viewers and late night going away and seemingly everyones immediate reaction was SOLELY to point the finger at Trump. Like he may have been a factor but I seriously doubt he was the driving factor.
I do buy the financials line. They’re trying to look profitable for a merger and the show doesn’t drag in as much money as it could and signing another expensive contract with someone in a field that has a declining viewership? I don’t see how that’s just thrown out the window instantly just to say it’s to silence Colbert. Considering no one will stop talking about it… didn’t really work out that well, huh? Not to mention the fact that we had this shit over a decade ago with Conan. Colbert will be fine and will end up landing a job doing more or less the same thing while bringing over his staff. Dude cares about the people who work for him.
But my evidence more than anything? They’re a fuckin business trying to merge with another one. Literally the only thing that matters to them is profits and they’ve said they don’t want to get involved in pre-written long term contracts. The writing is on the wall here. It’s one shitty company absorbing another shitty company and everyone just started pointing the finger at… Trump.
The comment was a good conversation contribution. It’s unfortunate downvotes always represent agree/disagree instead of productive/counterproductive.
I couldn’t give less of a fuck what makes these people boo when I’ve seen what makes them cheer. If they wanna downvote me with imaginary internet points that mean nothing to wrap themselves up in a comfy blanket and keep pretending then by all means.
Lol, talk shows are cheap to make. Even small countries with small viewership can afford to out them in with miniscule viewership numbers.
They can be cheap to make. American Talk Shows aren’t. They’re in a giant theater on broadway that they use for essentially nothing other than this one show. Then there’s Colbert’s price tag. His contract that he signed 3 years ago was for $15 million anually. That’s $45 million for 2.4 million consistent viewers over the past 3 years and that’s just him. That isn’t including the cost to guests, acts, writing, upkeep, and the dozen departments needed to run that show and fund everyones paycheque. But sure. That’s “Cheap”.
And it is insanely conspiratorial for all of you to go “LOOK! THERE IS A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE! IT IS CLEARLY TRUMP! THERE IS NO OTHER REASON!”
Meanwhile you’ve got Conan, Samantha Bee, James Corden, and Lily Singh all standing on the side like “Well I guess we never existed then.” All of them cancelled. None of them being replaced by another Late Show.
The pattern existed before Trump. Colbert’s contract was due to renew next year. This isn’t a conspiracy. Late Night is just dying.
Edit: I goofed. Lily Singh had her show replaced by the Amber Ruffin show.
There’s nothing in the modlog about this post being removed. If it’s gone then it seems to be because the user deleted it.