You’ve made a potential error in underestimating just how horrible some peoples’ lives are and how filled with hatred they are over that fact.

What fact? People’s lives are horrible BECAUSE of ICE. They’re so horrible that I considered that nobody would be “on the fence” because either you drank the Fear-Of-Crime Kool-Aid or you are horrified at what ICE agents are doing to children and poor people. The entire reason there are people who don’t think ICE needs to be abolished right now is because Fox News and other right-wing grifters have pumped out propaganda making it look like there is a “crime wave” like it’s the Reagan Era, and people living in the Suburbs not knowing what the outside world is like. Not only do they choose to portray a crime wave, they have to do it, because otherwise people would see their president as the power-hungry maniac he is rather than a savior of order. No riot is actually making people miserable, only the police-reported, sensationalist coverage of protests.

This is really what drives so much of politics in the world–disgruntled people with no future who choose to hate others who have nothing to do with it.

That’s just the American Suburbs. I hope American states can secede to change this. Meanwhile, in Vietnam, there is a high-speed rail being built. This is not driven by disgruntled people, people with no future, or people who choose not to hate others who have nothing to do with it. Neither is Iran defending itself from an imperialist regime, nor Australia having their left-wing Labour party completely outdo the right-wing Liberal party. America is the villain here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_Unicorn_Ranch

All of a sudden, so many things are “not protected speech”. I find it tempting to be as ignorant as a Republican, but I’d certainly be caught off guard in that case.

PR for who? Who is on the fence about ICE?

And share them with your friends. Learn from Lenin, learn from the Vietnamese, learn from Alpaca farms.

You jest, but even though I hate a lot about the Trump regime, I’m glad that it is eating out its own military capacity like this. It’s like when you’re incredibly sick in bed, and then it gets a little better for a while.

and from there to mugshots of the 9/11 attackers. Though the narration was inaudible, I believe that 9/11 was cited to justify the deployment of the men who appeared onscreen next

No way they’re still worried about 9/11. That was over 20 fucking years ago.

I was simply born in Cascadia and I just want Oregon to secede. I know that it seems unlikely but everything that’s happened is unlikely.

I’m about as old as he is!

Alright, I’m putting this as my numerous reasons for splitting the Union.

by “this is stupid” I mean “the idea of chemtrails being used by the government is stupid”.

I hate the government, but this is stupid, especially considering that the government was supposedly behind this the whole time. The people who think these are chemtrails have no ideological integrity. When they find something evil done by the United States, instead of standing against the United States, they believe that it was someone else’s fault who is nonetheless powerful. To them, it could be George Soros’ fault, it could be the Democrats’ fault, it could be the Deep State’s fault, but never America’s fault. I believe many of the real problems today: people being left houseless and starving, masked ICE agents tormenting people, war in the Middle East between Israel and Iran, and so on are the fault of the United States–not Jews or Communists or Russo-Chinese interference–and it’s not happening to America.

“bUt iT’s oNLy tHe dAnGeRoUs oNeS!”

I loathe law-and-order rhetoric in any nation, but most certainly in America. Tough On Crime policies have led to the dumbest fucking things that have ever existed in the United States. People are voting for a serial liar and conman who will probably ship them off to Dijbouti or El Salvador just to stay away from someone who broke the law once, or who is likely to break the law. The lesson we should all learn is to stop going nuts over “crime waves”. If the news claims that crime is “going through the roof” or that there is an “epidemic of crime”, make sure to remember:

1. There are way, way bigger threats to public safety than a few gangbangers, for example tech companies, evangelicals, and Nazis.
2. Criminals are people too. They have hopes and dreams, motives, economic conditions, and opinions. Consider why someone is committing a murder or robbery, rather than assuming it’s because of greed.
3. There are for-profit security forces and prisons that all benefit from fear of crime. The news will often blow crime out of proportion to satisfy their sponsors, and downplay authoritarianism likewise.
4. Police officers are often just as dangerous as criminals. It’s better to think of crime as a situation that can be escalated and de-escalated (cops are notoriously bad at this) than as the result of Bad People who need Good People to stop them.
5. There are a lot of good resources for reading about crime in a productive way. Although I am not quite Anarchist, the Anarchist Library has a lot of thought-provoking material on what makes law just and unjust. There’s a big difference between “murder is wrong because the Law says so” and “murder is wrong because killing people is wrong”.
6. Some people are so evil that they need to be killed, i.e. Real Estate CEOs.

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I mean, Lemmy itself was created by Communists if I’m correct

That sounds like something Heinlein would write during his earlier days. I completely agree with both the argument and reasoning, even tho he turned anti-Communist and insane before he wrote that.

I was always scared of becoming homeless when I was a kid. It motivates people to work hard: the beatings will continue until morale improves.