This statement came after the meeting with Doug and the fed ministers.
They desperately want to flood our protected markets and crash our economy and are pissed we aren’t letting them - hence the threats. Literally every interaction we have had with the Donald government has been a goddamn threat. Let us crush your local production, let us have your resources, let us have the Arctic, etc etc
US is negotiating in bad faith. They don’t care for a deal, they are working to ruin the relationship.
They are doing the same with Ukraine.
Some Art of the Deal there from the old Donny. I know it was a ghost writer who wrote the book and Trump has probably never read it but it is just interesting.
They need to learn to grow the fuck up and learn you can’t have everything.
They still, to this day, do everything they can to make the people of Cuba suffer for their decision to stop Usamerican exploitation of their land/labour/resources, decades ago.
They desperately want to flood our protected markets and crash our economy and are pissed we aren’t letting them - hence the threats. Literally every interaction we have had with the Donald government has been a goddamn threat. Let us crush your local production, let us have your resources, let us have the Arctic, etc etc
I think this argument is missing the bigger picture. Trade isn’t some one-sided plot by the U.S. to “take over” Canada—it’s about negotiations, and sometimes, yes, that includes pressure tactics. But the real issue here isn’t some grand conspiracy to flood our markets and crash our economy. It’s that the U.S. often pushes for one-sided trade deals that benefit them more than us, and we push back. That’s not an attack—it’s just how trade disputes work.
The real question is: why should Canada keep such heavily protected markets in sectors like dairy and telecommunications while expecting full access to the U.S. market? Competition is a good thing—it leads to lower prices and better services. Imagine getting European cheeses at a fraction of the cost or finally having real telecom competition. If the U.S. is willing to open its markets to our regional airliners, our softwood lumber, and other key exports, why wouldn’t we negotiate on equal footing?
The problem isn’t trade itself—it’s unfair trade. If the U.S. wants access to our markets, we should be getting equivalent access to theirs. That’s the real fight here. Instead of seeing this as a U.S. plot to crush Canada, we should be focused on securing a deal that works both ways—whether that means better market access, fairer tariffs, or even things like freer movement of citizens across borders.
The goal should be fair trade, not a lopsided deal where one side wins at the expense of the other.
Some market have strategic value other are essentials and you need to control. Under cutting local producers until they give up means you can price gouge after and make huge profits. Deregulate milk and see your farmers disappear, you become dependant on a not so friendly neighbor.
My wallet shouldn’t be used to subsidize a fundamentally unproductive Quebec dairy farm because political parties need to prop up their Quebec MPs. Markets should be free, trade should be open and fair for trading partners that feel likewise.
Are you saying only Quebec produces milk? Aren’t there farmer in other provinces?
They need a bunch of stuff from Canada, and they know it. Why they’re playing dumb like that, we’ll never know.
We really ought to stop exports of anything their military needs, for national security reasons. “National security” is one of Trump’s favorite justifications, so I’m sure he’ll understand.
That’s how you definitely get invaded. Cover Canada in spikes before you do something like that.
Are we sure they’re playing dumb, and aren’t just actually dumb?
Perhaps half way in-between.
No I think it is they are dumb.
To make it look like we are treating them unfairly. They are trying to make Canada look like the bad guy.
The only people who actually believe that “Canada is the bad guy” are the dumbest of the dumb Republican voters. Most people with any sense can see that Trump is the asshole here. Every other world leader, except for putin, publically acknowledges this.
I will also add that Lutnick is a massive piece of shit and paints trump as the saint of all saints. Canada shouldn’t even bother having talks with any of their representatives if they’re playing pigeon chess.
Yeah I was reading yesterday that the spat with Canada is hugely unpopular with American citizens. Even many GOP voters don’t want it. I suspect that the US will keep tariffs up and continue being a pain in the ass, but they will shift their military threats elsewhere. The recent news of the US planning an invasion of Panama seems more possible and would easier for them to sell to the US people. It would still be economic suicide, though.
Hopefully, Canadian leaders are wise enough to take the threats to Canada’s sovereignty extremely seriously. It should be their number one priority. Just because the Dollar Menu aficionado in the White House says something that seems baffling on its surface doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be planning for the worst.
Well you are lucky if you live outside of Saskatchewan or Alberta.
Absolutely. It does seem as though the new Carney government is up to the task, but we do have an election coming so we shall see.
That said, the Cons are not polling particularly good right now and it would be easy for the Liberals to form coalition with the NDP, Greens, and/or Bloc. There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that those parties would cooperate with the US-aligned Cons under PP.
Crazy to think that voters were convinced that “sleepy joe”, and whatever nickname they gave Kamla Harris, would have been worse than what’s happening now.
So basically they cant look after themselves, and believe its up to the rest of the world to feed them.
Nutlick says what now.
There seems to be no way out of this without serious threats…
It is serious. Don’s an unhinged grifter, but he’s also just a puppet president, imo. He’s got orders to follow, but he’s also a dangerous narcissist with a long leash. Musk is just fucked up these days. He’s just trying to syphon as much money as he can, while losing billions at the same time. He had to know he was.tanking Tesla, but he got his $55 billion dollar paycheck from them.
