• Wxnzxn@lemmy.mlEnglish
      28·
      1 year ago

      It’s pretty telling a platform like YouTube really only gets fully enjoyable with an adblocker, sponsorblock and this. I wish PeerTube had a lot of good creators, but last time I checked (years ago, admittedly) it was mostly conspiracy theorists and cryptobros.

      • Molecular0079@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        1 year ago

        The problem with PeerTube is that there’s no built-in way for creators to get paid. If there are no ads or sponsors, then the only alternative is some kind of value for value system like what Podcasting 2.0 has. Until some kind of well integrated funding system gets built for PeerTube, creators really are not going to be incentivized to publish stuff on the platform.

        • lohrun@fediverse.booEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          At this point I’m down with paying a monthly subscription to a creator for content. I’ve never signed up for any creator’s pattern or anything because how the system is currently set up. I know some creators switched to posting less frequently because their more frequent posting appeared to be hurting their view count due to YouTube’s algorithm. I am so willing to pay a creator directly for them to go back to making more frequent content (and content they actually enjoy and not stuff just for views)

          • lackthought@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            7·
            1 year ago

            my only issue with this is eventually people will hit a financial limit and only be able to support a few creators, leaving others without funding

            I’m following over 30 youtube channels, even at $1/month per channel that would still be $30/month which is too much for me honestly. not to mention the fact I would have to manage 30 different subscriptions

            I’d like a youtube premium style subscription where I can specify a group of channels and the money gets distributed to them only

            this way my money isn’t going to conspiracy channels, and I would only have a single subscription to manage

            • lohrun@fediverse.booEnglish
              4·
              1 year ago

              Does nebula have enough content to be worth it now? I haven’t heard anyone with a sponsor spot for nebula in a few years now

              • Orphie Baby@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                I don’t know how much content would be “worth it” to most people. I just subscribed for Lindsay Ellis coming back, since she’s no longer uploading to YouTube due to the “git her b****, it’s her time” cancelling bullshit.

          • Kilamaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            If you are willing to pay… then why not yt premium ? A cut goes to google, sure, but it goes to creators, based on your watch time, without falling into having to support 1-infinite channels etc. Plus no ads without any tricks

        • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          Best I can think of, would be implementing Librepay into PeerTube and make payments easy af.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Ooh! Thanks for the tip! Dumb question, Peertube federates, right? Where you can get a feed of all subscribed channels from lots of instances on one instance? With a quick poke around I’m not seeing username@instancsname so I’m slightly thrown off, but I’ve also only been on the fediverse for like a month

          • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            PeerTube is also part of ActiviyPub, so yes it federates.

            I know tilvids.com doesn’t federate directly with anyone, but you can subscribe to any channel on tilvids.com from any other PeerTube instance.

      • 𝜏au@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        adblocker, sponsorblock and this

        I’d even add Unhook (hide Trending, Shorts, Merch, replace “Home Feed” with subscriptions etc.) and Age Restriction Bypass (avoid the need to verify your account with a credit card). I also use Clickbait Remover. It essentially does the same as DeArrow without the crowdsourcing, which is already good enough for me.

      • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Don’t forget the PocketTube extension, which allows you to sort subscriptions into self-made categories. Which is shockingly not a default feature.

    • HughJanus@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      I mean yes but also it’s not that hard. Google is not trying to give you a great experience, they’re trying to drive clicks to ads.

  • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    1 year ago

    I’ve used it for exactly three minutes and this is already amazing. I hope it gets integrated into ReVanced and Newpipe.

        • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Kind of. It’s a desktop web front-end to Youtube. I’m not sure whether it blocks in-stream ads (and I’m not turning off Ublock to find out), but it does basically reimplement the Youtube interface without many of its undesired elements.

            • 🇦🇺Baku@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              I mean, you’re not necessarily wrong, but for some people that is kind of just the appeal. It’s very obviously targetted at a very niche group of people, and if you’re not in that, of course you’ll dislike it

            • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              If you feel so strongly about the matter, feel free to not use it. Or better yet, contribute to the project to bring it up to feature parity.

              As for the link - I guess whatever parses the URLs on Lemmy doesn’t recognise .video as a valid top-level domain. All I wrote was piped.video, everything else was added by the website.

        • Krompus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          More like Newpipe but it actually works (GURU MEDIATION) and has nice UI. I just found it yesterday on FDroid, I recommend it.

    • Kyogen@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Thanks, I didn’t know revanced was a thing. I only enjoyed old vanced for briefly in its last days. So good to hear theres still options like this around.

        • Supernovae@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Honestly ReVanced is quite a bit more extensible than Vanced and works very reliably. Plus it’s open source and you can download it off GitHub. The manager makes downloading patches about as easy as installing Vanced with the manager a few years ago. I’m sure someone will add a derrow patch to Revanced very soon

          • hypnotoad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            I’ve used vanced and revanced since day one and always checked the stickied reddit post for any update notes before upgrading to the latest patch set. Revanced decided to migrate to Discord which is possibly the dumbest place they could have gone to (read: I don’t know how to use it to quickly find relevant patch notes and am angry about it), and I feel like updating to a new version is a crapshoot.

            Do you know of a better place to find out which versions are compatible with the latest APK and where to get support if something breaks?

            • Supernovae@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              The Manager does a reasonable job identifying patches available for a given version. The Issues page on GitHub has a lot of the bugs laid out. The Releases tab also has the update notes and the website has the patch notes (including required version).

              On the Discord, #announcements has the major update info. #support acts quite a lot like the old Reddit page where people post issues they’ve run into with threaded replies. I agree having a ReVanced Lemmy page would be better than Discord but Discord Posts are shockingly usable imo. Chat and Off-Topic are obviously horrifically unsearchable chatrooms but also aren’t the only resources on the server.

  • Acid@startrek.websiteEnglish
    13·
    1 year ago

    Really good extension, I’ve added it to my browser.

    While some creators like Linus have said they dislike the clickbaity titles and thumbnails but they have to do it due to engagement that’s simply because the younger generations are the ones engaging with that content. As an older person I’d rather just have a to the point description of what I’m going to get.

    • Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      I might get it for the titles alone. The clickbaity thumbnails don’t really bother me, but I’d like to have a good title at least.

    • Tanoh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      There is a reason clickbait images and titles are used, they work. If they didn’t work, no one would use them.

      • eskimofry@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        1 year ago

        You must think marketing is made of infallible geniuses. Just because it exists doesn’t make it good.

        • scytale@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          They didn’t say it was good, just that it’s what works; that’s why it’s everywhere.

        • Lumidaub@feddit.deEnglish
          0·
          1 year ago

          Nobody said “good”, but if it keeps existing, it works or at least isn’t harmful. Bit like evolution.

          • Rodeo@lemmy.caEnglish
            0·
            1 year ago

            Or there are people with an interest in keeping it that way.

            I don’t think there’s any big conspiracy about YouTube titles, but let’s not pretend thing like wealth inequality still exist because they’re not harmful.

            • Lumidaub@feddit.deEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              What “interest” would they have to keep it that way if it wasn’t working?

              Wealth inequality exists because it works for the people who have the power to control it. In a way, it’s not harmful ENOUGH to change evolutionarily.

              • Rodeo@lemmy.caEnglish
                01·
                1 year ago

                Are you serious? You literally answered your own question with the very next sentence.

                • Lumidaub@feddit.deEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  What? The original argument was “Just because it exists doesn’t make it good.”, implying that it (click-bait thumbnails) doesn’t necessarily work. To which I said that the fact that it exists means it works. To which you seemed to object by saying that there may be people who have an interest in it existing - like they want it to exist despite it actually not working. I’m confused about what it is you’re saying.

    • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      I don’t think it can be said to conclusively be an age issue. I assure you that many Boomers and older Xers love clickbait titles.

      It’s a more granular demographic than just age.

      • Acid@startrek.websiteEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Maybe but I can only go with my own anecdotal experience and It tends to be the younger audience more attracted to them.

        Of course, I fully admit I may be completely wrong.

    • Raltoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Don’t forget that creators will release a video that you might want to watch later and then change the information.

      You’ll see a video you want to check tomorrow but not enough to add it to the “watch later”. But when you check your subscriptions the next day it’s been 12+ hours and they’ve changed the title and thumbnail to further game the algorithm.

  • QubaXR@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    Love the idea, but just to be the devil’s advocate, I think it will just mask garbage videos. Currently, the clickbait thumbnails and titles are an indicator to blacklist a channel, without having to waste time watching it.

    • Ultraviolet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      Unfortunately because of the way Youtube’s algorithm works, even high quality channels are buried if they don’t play the game.

    • ajay@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      If you look at the DeArrow website and browser extension pages, I made sure to only use high quality channels as examples (Tom Scott, CGP Grey) to demonstrate how far reaching the sensationalism problem is.

      • LichbaneLB@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        CGP Grey is personally painful to me. He used to be a no-nonsense education youtube legend, but in the last few years he’s just maximised clickability - even going thorugh his whole back catalogue and changing titles and thumbnails.

        For example, he made a great video about generative adversarial networks ~5 years ago but now its titled “How machines like ChatGPT learn” - despite coming out before GPT.

        • dack@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Pretty much every successful YouTube channel edits titles. It’s just part of the algorithm game now. You will often see videos cycle through several different titles shortly after release.

  • kratoz29@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    This sounds like a nice addon, sadly most of my YT consumption is done from my Nvidia Shield TV with STN, so I still get those annoying thumbnails I think (I have them in my home screen and that’s where I watch them or add them to the list to watch later within the Shield menu).

  • nameisnotimportant@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    I never thought it could be possible to do that, thank you so much for this and making YouTube a better place.

    If someone knows how to get rid of shorts in the search results I’d be most grateful 👌

    • FloridaUX@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      If a channel that makes clickbait garbage thumbnails pops up I just click to not have the channel recommended again, and that has worked pretty well.

      Clickbait works and I encourage all YouTubers that I watch to do so. The more people they reach, the more money they earn and the better their content can become. Outside of a minor annoyance to the superusers, using clickbait titles and thumbnails is just good business. Even the very best content producers in their category (Veritasium in educational content, MKBHD for tech reviewing are great examples) use it because they have to: but lots of them dislike doing it. Veritasium has two great videos about it: clickbaiting is a HUGE benefit to any YouTube channel, a good thumbnail alone can account for 20-50% of all views on a video.

      Imagine it like this: every time you pay for anything, you get a free 30% discount if you pinch yourself in the arm. Wouldn’t you always just do it? Who cares about the minor annoyance.

      That’s what it’s like for the content creator. Put 30 minutes of work into a clickbait thumbnail + title and it’s 30% more views on every single video.

      • sorenant@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I understand but I don’t have to like it or see it on my stream. I’m sure they won’t miss the fraction of missed views from people like me if they’re making 30% more from others.

  • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    This add-on needs to:

    • Store unlimited amount of client-side data
    • Access your data for sites in the googlevideo.com domain
    • Access your data for sites in the youtube.com domain
    • Access your data for sponsor.ajay.app
    • Access your data for dearrow-thumb.ajay.app
    • Access your data for www.youtube-nocookie.com

    This add-on may also ask to: **Access your data for all websites

    Is there a better option than for it to need unlimited amount of client-side data? Also, why “Access your data for all websites”?-

    • ajay@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      Creator of theq extension here, that is an optional permissions (may ask). It never asks to access to all sites, it only optionally let’s you add support for additional sites such as different Invidious instances. These are arbitrary domains, so it needs permission to ask for any arbitrary website.

      Support for invidious is not actually done yet, so right now, it never asks for permission for any new sites anyway

      The client side data is used to store your submissions to always show your preferred title, even if there is another submission on the server. You can disable this option in the settings