A voter-approved Oregon gun control law violates the state constitution, a judge ruled Tuesday, continuing to block it from taking effect and casting fresh doubt over the future of the embattled measure.

The law requires people to undergo a criminal background check and complete a gun safety training course in order to obtain a permit to buy a firearm. It also bans high-capacity magazines.

The plaintiffs in the federal case, which include the Oregon Firearms Federation, have appealed the ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The case could potentially go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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    We have well-regulated militias.

    They’re called the National fucking Guard.

    Every Tom, Dick, and wife-beating Harry doesn’t need to walk around with enough firepower to massacre a neighborhood.

    The Constitution is a framework of government, not a goddamn suicide pact. Society and technology have changed since it was written, and we aren’t worried about needing the family musket to form a citizen militia to repel the Brits invading from Canada. And even by the end of the Revolutionary War, the myth of farmer militias gave way to the reality of a professional army.

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      The national guard would be considered an army. It is not a permanent war economy army like our Army, Navy, Marines, but it is an army nonetheless. Permanent war armies are a relatively modern product.

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          Personally, I’m much more for dismantling the permanent war economy and reducing the standing army by a few orders of magnitude. So much of our resources are stolen to keep a permanent war footing and maintain our our ~800 overseas bases. With the amount of money we spend to secure global military dominance, every single person in the entire country could have the worlds best healthcare, fully paid, no copays or anything.

          So tbh, I’d rather move back towards a militia.

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            As much as I dislike the 2nd Ammendment, American prosperity is built on those overseas bases and the security that they provide to our allied countries. The modern globalized economy, which has benefited us IMMENSELY as a country is built on the promise that in exchange for America keeping the world safe for trade, almost all major countries use the American Dollar to back their own currency, and all oil is paid for in US Dollars.

            The real problem is that we aren’t taxing the ultra-wealthy who are the ones getting all the money from the advantages of that globalized economy.

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      The Constitution is a framework of government, not a goddamn suicide pact.

      This is really a the core of the current problem, I think. We’ll never get enough votes for an amendment of any kind IMO. R would vote against an amendment from D saying the sky was blue. So now we’re at a place where turning schools into prisons due to all the security measures and similar bandaids are the only things we can do.

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      I personally wouldn’t call that a militia. My understanding of a militia is that it’s a small group of people 20-40 max.

      The national guard is significantly larger and much much more well organized.

      That being said I agree with the rest of what you’ve said.